Frake, Lydia Eliza 1a 2a 3a 4a 5a 5b 5c 6a 7a 8a 9a 10 11 12a 13a 1b 1c
| Birth Name | Frake, Lydia Eliza 3b 4b 5d 5e 5f 6b 7b 8b 9b 10 11 12b 13b 1d |
| Also Known As | Frake, Lydia Eliza 2b |
| Gender | female |
| Age at Death | 75 years, 11 months, 20 days |
Narrative
Likely scenario (and this was common)
• Lydia and Charles Smith had an informal long-term relationship
• Charles was not yet in a position to marry
• age
• money
• military status
• housing
• Walter Percy Freeland enters the picture later, likely 1914–1915
• Wartime urgency accelerates marriage
• Walter goes to war
• Walter dies in 1917
This leaves Lydia:
• young
• widowed
• with children already socially tied to Smith
After the war, she returns to the original stable partner and marries Charles in 1919.
This pattern appears repeatedly in WWI family reconstructions.
5. Why Surrey marriages but Middlesex children?
This is actually a huge clue, not a contradiction.
Births in Middlesex
• where Lydia lived
• where Charles lived
• where the household existed
• where the children were raised
Marriages in Surrey
• Wimbledon churches were:
• cheaper
• less inquisitive
• more anonymous
• Freeland family base was Surrey
• Lydia may have used:
• parish of convenience
• family connection
• wartime marriage permissions
People did not marry where they lived if it was socially awkward.
Narrative
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Events
| Event | Date | Place | Description | Sources |
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| Birth | 1895-03-12 | Battersea, Surrey, England | 3c 6c 7c 8c 10 11 12c 13c 1e 1f | |
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| Baptism | 1896-04-22 | England | 5g | |
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| Residence | 1901 | St Marylebone | 8d | |
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| Census | 1921 | 11 dryden rd, South Wimbledon, Surrey, England | ||
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| Residence | 1921 | Wimbledon, Surrey, England | 1g 1h | |
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Event Note
Occupation: Tailoress; Marital Status: Married; Relation to Head of House: Wife |
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| Residence | 1936 | London, England, United Kingdom | 2c | |
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| Residence | 1939 | Surrey, England | 13d | |
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Event Note
Marital Status: Married; Occupation: Unpaid Domestic Duties |
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| Census | 1947 | 49 gayford road, Hammersmith Shepherds Bush, London, England | ||
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| Residence | Wimbledon, Surrey, England | 11 1i | ||
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| Residence | Wimbledon. S. W. 19. | 12d 1j | ||
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Event Note
Relation to Head of House: Widow |
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| Death | 1971-03-00 | Merton, Greater London, England | 3d 7d | |
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Parents
| Relation to main person | Name | Birth date | Death date | Relation within this family (if not by birth) |
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| Father | Frake, John Alfred | 1861-02-14 | 1915-04-00 | |
| Mother | West, Alice Louisa Eliza | 1864-04-26 | 1931-03-00 | |
| Frake, Lydia Eliza | 1895-03-12 | 1971-03-00 | ||
| Brother | Frake, John Frederick Peter | 1897-10-13 | 1927-05-18 |
Families
Family of Freeland, Walter Percy and Frake, Lydia Eliza |
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| Married | Husband | Freeland, Walter Percy ( * 1892-12-09 + 1917-11-08 ) | |||||||||||||||||||||||
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Family of Smith, Charles Frederick and Frake, Lydia Eliza |
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| Married | Husband | Smith, Charles Frederick ( * 1893-02-20 + 1983-03-29 ) | |||||||||||||||||||||||
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| Name | Birth Date | Death Date |
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| Smith, Frederick Joseph Ernest | 1921-12-00 | 1989 |
| Smith, Lydia Janet (Jessie) | 1923-01-06 | 1971-04-00 |
Addresses
| Date | Street | Locality | City | State/ Province | County | Postal Code | Country | Phone | Sources |
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Narrative
On jinnie's baptism record
Narrative
On Ellen's baptism records
Media
Attributes
| Type | Value | Notes | Sources |
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| AKA | Attribute Note Lydia Eliza Smith |
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Pedigree
Ancestors
Source References
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Ancestry.com: 1921 England Census
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- Page: The National Archives of the UK (TNA); Kew, Surrey, England; 1921 Census Returns; Reference: RG 15/3624, ED 38, Sch 117; Book: 03624
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Source text:
Name
Lydia Eliza Smith
Gender
Female
Marital Status
Married
Age
27 Years 3 Months
Relation to Head
Wife
Estimated Birth Year
1894
Birth Place
Battersea, London, England
Residence Date
1921
Residence Street Address
11 Dryden Rd, South Wimbledon, Sw19
Residence Place
Wimbledon, Surrey, England
Occupation
Tailoress
Occupation Code
404/6
Employer
Mr J Newcombe, 4 Trained of Pension Yard, Bond St, London
Employer Code
341
Place of Work
4 Council Pension Yd, Bond St, London
Inhabited
Y
Ward
Haydons Park
Parliamentary Division
Wimbledon Pb
Registration District
Kingston
Registration District Number
40
Sub registration district
Wimbledon
Sub Registration District Number
1
Respondent Mr Smith
Enumeration District Name
Wimbledon Mb
Enumeration District
38
Schedule 117
Schedule Type Code
E
Household Members 2
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- Page: The National Archives of the UK (TNA); Kew, Surrey, England; 1921 Census Returns; Reference: RG 15/3624, ED 38, Sch 117; Book: 03624
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- Page: The National Archives of the UK (TNA); Kew, Surrey, England; 1921 Census Returns; Reference: RG 15/3624, ED 38, Sch 117; Book: 03624
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Source text:
Name
Lydia Eliza Smith
Gender
Female
Marital Status
Married
Age
27 Years 3 Months
Relation to Head
Wife
Estimated Birth Year
1894
Birth Place
Battersea, London, England
Residence Date
1921
Residence Street Address
11 Dryden Rd, South Wimbledon, Sw19
Residence Place
Wimbledon, Surrey, England
Occupation
Tailoress
Occupation Code
404/6
Employer
Mr J Newcombe, 4 Trained of Pension Yard, Bond St, London
Employer Code
341
Place of Work
4 Council Pension Yd, Bond St, London
Inhabited
Y
Ward
Haydons Park
Parliamentary Division
Wimbledon Pb
Registration District
Kingston
Registration District Number
40
Sub registration district
Wimbledon
Sub Registration District Number
1
Respondent Mr Smith
Enumeration District Name
Wimbledon Mb
Enumeration District
38
Schedule 117
Schedule Type Code
E
Household Members 2
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- Page: The National Archives of the UK (TNA); Kew, Surrey, England; 1921 Census Returns; Reference: RG 15/3624, ED 38, Sch 117; Book: 03624
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- Page: The National Archives of the UK (TNA); Kew, Surrey, England; 1921 Census Returns; Reference: RG 15/3624, ED 38, Sch 117; Book: 03624
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- Page: The National Archives of the UK (TNA); Kew, Surrey, England; 1921 Census Returns; Reference: RG 15/3624, ED 38, Sch 117; Book: 03624
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Source text:
Name
Lydia Eliza Smith
Gender
Female
Marital Status
Married
Age
27 Years 3 Months
Relation to Head
Wife
Estimated Birth Year
1894
Birth Place
Battersea, London, England
Residence Date
1921
Residence Street Address
11 Dryden Rd, South Wimbledon, Sw19
Residence Place
Wimbledon, Surrey, England
Occupation
Tailoress
Occupation Code
404/6
Employer
Mr J Newcombe, 4 Trained of Pension Yard, Bond St, London
Employer Code
341
Place of Work
4 Council Pension Yd, Bond St, London
Inhabited
Y
Ward
Haydons Park
Parliamentary Division
Wimbledon Pb
Registration District
Kingston
Registration District Number
40
Sub registration district
Wimbledon
Sub Registration District Number
1
Respondent Mr Smith
Enumeration District Name
Wimbledon Mb
Enumeration District
38
Schedule 117
Schedule Type Code
E
Household Members 2
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- Page: The National Archives of the UK (TNA); Kew, Surrey, England; 1921 Census Returns; Reference: RG 15/3624, ED 38, Sch 117; Book: 03624
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- Page: The National Archives of the UK (TNA); Kew, Surrey, England; 1921 Census Returns; Reference: RG 15/3624, ED 38, Sch 117; Book: 03624
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Source text:
Name
Lydia Eliza Smith
Gender
Female
Marital Status
Married
Age
27 Years 3 Months
Relation to Head
Wife
Estimated Birth Year
1894
Birth Place
Battersea, London, England
Residence Date
1921
Residence Street Address
11 Dryden Rd, South Wimbledon, Sw19
Residence Place
Wimbledon, Surrey, England
Occupation
Tailoress
Occupation Code
404/6
Employer
Mr J Newcombe, 4 Trained of Pension Yard, Bond St, London
Employer Code
341
Place of Work
4 Council Pension Yd, Bond St, London
Inhabited
Y
Ward
Haydons Park
Parliamentary Division
Wimbledon Pb
Registration District
Kingston
Registration District Number
40
Sub registration district
Wimbledon
Sub Registration District Number
1
Respondent Mr Smith
Enumeration District Name
Wimbledon Mb
Enumeration District
38
Schedule 117
Schedule Type Code
E
Household Members 2
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- Page: The National Archives of the UK (TNA); Kew, Surrey, England; 1921 Census Returns; Reference: RG 15/3624, ED 38, Sch 117; Book: 03624
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Source text:
Name
Lydia Eliza Smith
Gender
Female
Marital Status
Married
Age
27 Years 3 Months
Relation to Head
Wife
Estimated Birth Year
1894
Birth Place
Battersea, London, England
Residence Date
1921
Residence Street Address
11 Dryden Rd, South Wimbledon, Sw19
Residence Place
Wimbledon, Surrey, England
Occupation
Tailoress
Occupation Code
404/6
Employer
Mr J Newcombe, 4 Trained of Pension Yard, Bond St, London
Employer Code
341
Place of Work
4 Council Pension Yd, Bond St, London
Inhabited
Y
Ward
Haydons Park
Parliamentary Division
Wimbledon Pb
Registration District
Kingston
Registration District Number
40
Sub registration district
Wimbledon
Sub Registration District Number
1
Respondent Mr Smith
Enumeration District Name
Wimbledon Mb
Enumeration District
38
Schedule 117
Schedule Type Code
E
Household Members 2
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- Page: The National Archives of the UK (TNA); Kew, Surrey, England; 1921 Census Returns; Reference: RG 15/3624, ED 38, Sch 117; Book: 03624
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Source text:
Name
Lydia Eliza Smith
Gender
Female
Marital Status
Married
Age
27 Years 3 Months
Relation to Head
Wife
Estimated Birth Year
1894
Birth Place
Battersea, London, England
Residence Date
1921
Residence Street Address
11 Dryden Rd, South Wimbledon, Sw19
Residence Place
Wimbledon, Surrey, England
Occupation
Tailoress
Occupation Code
404/6
Employer
Mr J Newcombe, 4 Trained of Pension Yard, Bond St, London
Employer Code
341
Place of Work
4 Council Pension Yd, Bond St, London
Inhabited
Y
Ward
Haydons Park
Parliamentary Division
Wimbledon Pb
Registration District
Kingston
Registration District Number
40
Sub registration district
Wimbledon
Sub Registration District Number
1
Respondent Mr Smith
Enumeration District Name
Wimbledon Mb
Enumeration District
38
Schedule 117
Schedule Type Code
E
Household Members 2
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- Page: The National Archives of the UK (TNA); Kew, Surrey, England; 1921 Census Returns; Reference: RG 15/3624, ED 38, Sch 117; Book: 03624
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Source text:
Name
Lydia Eliza Smith
Gender
Female
Marital Status
Married
Age
27 Years 3 Months
Relation to Head
Wife
Estimated Birth Year
1894
Birth Place
Battersea, London, England
Residence Date
1921
Residence Street Address
11 Dryden Rd, South Wimbledon, Sw19
Residence Place
Wimbledon, Surrey, England
Occupation
Tailoress
Occupation Code
404/6
Employer
Mr J Newcombe, 4 Trained of Pension Yard, Bond St, London
Employer Code
341
Place of Work
4 Council Pension Yd, Bond St, London
Inhabited
Y
Ward
Haydons Park
Parliamentary Division
Wimbledon Pb
Registration District
Kingston
Registration District Number
40
Sub registration district
Wimbledon
Sub Registration District Number
1
Respondent Mr Smith
Enumeration District Name
Wimbledon Mb
Enumeration District
38
Schedule 117
Schedule Type Code
E
Household Members 2
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Ancestry.com: British Phone Books, 1880-1984
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- Page: BT Archives; London, England; British Phone Books 1880-1984
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- Page: BT Archives; London, England; British Phone Books 1880-1984
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Ancestry Family Tree
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- Page: Ancestry Family Tree
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Ancestry.com: UK, British Army World War I Service Records, 1914-1920
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- Page: The National Archives; London, England, UK; War Office: Soldiers' Documents, First World War Wo363
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- Page: The National Archives; London, England, UK; War Office: Soldiers' Documents, First World War Wo363
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- Page: The National Archives; London, England, UK; War Office: Soldiers' Documents, First World War Wo363
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Ancestry.com: London, England, Church of England Births and Baptisms, 1813-1924
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- Page: London Metropolitan Archives; London, England, UK; London Church of England Parish Registers; Reference Number: P70/CTC/011
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- Page: London Metropolitan Archives; London, England, UK; London Church of England Parish Registers; Reference Number: DRO/056
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- Page: London Metropolitan Archives; London, England, UK; London Church of England Parish Registers; Reference Number: P77/AUG
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- Page: London Metropolitan Archives; London, England, UK; London Church of England Parish Registers; Reference Number: P70/CTC/011
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- Page: London Metropolitan Archives; London, England, UK; London Church of England Parish Registers; Reference Number: DRO/056
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- Page: London Metropolitan Archives; London, England, UK; London Church of England Parish Registers; Reference Number: P77/AUG
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- Page: London Metropolitan Archives; London, England, UK; London Church of England Parish Registers; Reference Number: P70/CTC/011
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Ancestry.com: Surrey, England, Church of England Marriages and Banns, 1754-1937
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- Page: Surrey History Centre; Woking, Surrey, England; Surrey Church of England Parish Registers; Reference Number: 2050/1/13
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- Page: Surrey History Centre; Woking, Surrey, England; Surrey Church of England Parish Registers; Reference Number: 2050/1/13
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- Page: Surrey History Centre; Woking, Surrey, England; Surrey Church of England Parish Registers; Reference Number: 2050/1/13
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- Page: Surrey History Centre; Woking, Surrey, England; Surrey Church of England Parish Registers; Reference Number: 2050/1/13
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Ancestry.com: England & Wales, Civil Registration Death Index, 1916-2007
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- Page: General Register Office; United Kingdom; Volume: 5d; Page: 1182
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- Page: General Register Office; United Kingdom; Volume: 5d; Page: 1182
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- Page: General Register Office; United Kingdom; Volume: 5d; Page: 1182
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- Page: General Register Office; United Kingdom; Volume: 5d; Page: 1182
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Ancestry.com: 1901 England Census
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- Page: Class: RG13; Piece: 661; Folio: 75; Page: 36
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- Page: Class: RG13; Piece: 661; Folio: 75; Page: 36
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- Page: Class: RG13; Piece: 661; Folio: 75; Page: 36
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- Page: Class: RG13; Piece: 661; Folio: 75; Page: 36
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Ancestry.com: England & Wales, Civil Registration Marriage Index, 1916-2005
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- Page: General Register Office; United Kingdom; Volume: 2a; Page: 926
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- Page: General Register Office; United Kingdom; Volume: 2a; Page: 926
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- Page: General Register Office; United Kingdom; Volume: 2a; Page: 926
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- Page: General Register Office; United Kingdom; Volume: 2a; Page: 926
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- FreeBMD: England & Wales, Civil Registration Birth Index, 1837-1915
- Ancestry.com: England, Select Marriages, 1538-1973
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Ancestry.com: UK, World War I Pension Ledgers and Index Cards, 1914-1923
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- Page: Western Front Association; London, England; WWI Pension Record Cards and Ledgers; Reference: 072/0343/Fra-Fre
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- Page: Western Front Association; London, England; WWI Pension Record Cards and Ledgers; Reference: 072/0343/Fra-Fre
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- Page: Western Front Association; London, England; WWI Pension Record Cards and Ledgers; Reference: 072/0343/Fra-Fre
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- Page: Western Front Association; London, England; WWI Pension Record Cards and Ledgers; Reference: 072/0343/Fra-Fre
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Ancestry.com: 1939 England and Wales Register
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- Page: The National Archives; Kew, London, England; 1939 Register; Reference: RG 101/1403A
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- Page: The National Archives; Kew, London, England; 1939 Register; Reference: RG 101/1403A
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- Page: The National Archives; Kew, London, England; 1939 Register; Reference: RG 101/1403A
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- Page: The National Archives; Kew, London, England; 1939 Register; Reference: RG 101/1403A
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